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New points values

Postby Forehand_lob on Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:35 am

We knew the Master's and Slams were having their points doubled. What we didn't know was that was for the winners only. It's not a doubling of everything, and smaller tournaments don't have their points doubled.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ ... y/WBTennis

While this puts more emphasis on the Master's and Slams, it probably makes moving up the ranks a lot more difficult.
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Re: New points values

Postby funches on Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:14 pm

Very, very interesting.

I'm not sure what I think about the changes overall, but I have noticed that players get too many points for doing well in Challengers. Donald Young cracked the top 100 with less than five career wins in ATP level events. That's absurd. Guys will be ranked 60th who I can't recall winning a match in the last three months, so I look up their results, and they've won a Challenger and reached the final of two others and zoomed up 100 spots. But they may have gone too far with the devaluing. We'll see.
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Re: New points values

Postby Forehand_lob on Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:09 pm

Just converting the top 4's Master's and Slam results give us the following (not taking into account Paris or any result under R16):

Nadal - 10,120 (5,440 from slams)
Federer - 7,600 (5,120 from slams)
Djokovic - 7,140 (3,440 from 3 slams + whatever he got from Wimbledon)
Murray - 4,220 (1,560 from 2 slams + whatever he got from Roland Garros and the Australian Open)

The two Master's wins by Djokovic really boosted him against Federer (who has done relatively poorly outside of slams).
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Re: New points values

Postby tennisontherocks on Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:24 pm

funches wrote:Very, very interesting.

I'm not sure what I think about the changes overall, but I have noticed that players get too many points for doing well in Challengers. Donald Young cracked the top 100 with less than five career wins in ATP level events. That's absurd. Guys will be ranked 60th who I can't recall winning a match in the last three months, so I look up their results, and they've won a Challenger and reached the final of two others and zoomed up 100 spots. But they may have gone too far with the devaluing. We'll see.


good point. The mandatory inclusion of master series is also a factor. If someone is out of top 60, they are not eligible for MS events and can instead replace master series event with challenger or other ATP tourney. So they get to add like 10 challengers. Here is ranking breakdown for Young. Only 3 master series are counted and rest is filled with challengers/tier2/3 events.

http://www.atptennis.com/3/en/players/p ... layer=Y124

This new system might speed up ranking rise/fall and rewards tourney wins/finals more. so will see how it plays out.
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